American Born Chatty Desis (A·B·C·D)
"ABCD (American Born Confused Desi)" is being redefined in new livestream/podcast series American Born Chatty Desis hosted by internet personalities Sandeep Parikh (The Guild, The Legend of Neil) and Omar Najam (Dimension 20). The two hosts (and a sometimes exciting guest) in front of a live chat, with a fast and loose format where they check in with their chakras, debate over their American roots v. Desi heritage then close with a ridiculous game! Come for the light hearted commentary, stay for the deep insights into life from the second generation point of view.
American Born Chatty Desis (A·B·C·D)
Meeting George Harrison & Baby Rod Stewart - (A·B·C·D) Podcast Episode 15
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Remember the magic of growing up in a multilingual household? Join me and my special guest host, my mom Marla Najam, as we stroll down memory lane, navigating the linguistic labyrinth of our home, with English reigning supreme, giving way to Bengali during family visits. We also tackle my own attempts at learning Hindi in college - a journey filled with more than a few bumps in the road.
Delve into some of the more gripping aspects of cultural identity as we discuss my mom's life experiences in India and England and her encounters with celebrities like George Harrison. We also tackle the complicated subject of cultural appropriation, particularly as it pertains to practices like yoga and chakras in California. But it's not all serious talk; we delve into the world of Dungeons and Dragons and the joys of role-playing, drawing inspiration from South Asian mythology and even sharing a laugh about my usually reserved dad playing a barbarian character!
In the final part of our conversation, the lively debate continues as we discuss our favorite stories and argue over the ultimate food pairing - chutney vs ketchup. Our guest host, Omar, joins us and shares his favorite Omar story, his passion for cooking and foreign cuisines, and even a chance encounter with George Harrison. As we wrap up the episode, we reflect on storytelling's power to unite people, share a few laughs, and express heartfelt thanks to our sponsors and patrons. Tune in for an enriching conversation about cultural identity, language, and life's unexpected adventures!
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Oh, hello everyone, Hello, hello, hello. How you doing, how's it going? Oh, i love those cheers sounds. Hello everyone, welcome to ABCD. I am your host for this week. Omanajam Sandeep is actually away currently, so we are joined by a very, very special guest host. But we'll get to that in a second. I'm just going to quickly give you the old intro here. Our show, abcd American-born Chetty Dacys, is a podcast within a live stream within our lives as two American-born Dacys. It's a pod duckin', if you will. This is for anyone out there who, like us, is navigating our cultural identities and just wants to chat about it. So usually on ABCD we have a pretty strict format that we like to stick to. We've got three acts. We're kind of throwing that out because we're joined by a wonderful guest host. This week It is my mom, marlon Nijam. Hello, hello.
Speaker 2Woohoo.
Speaker 1There we go, there we go, extended. Wow, dumb and Givvy the extended cheers. I've never heard that go that long.
Speaker 2Oh, they're fired up for this.
Speaker 1You saw it, i love it. Hello mom, how's it going?
Speaker 3It's going wonderful, son. How's it going with you?
Speaker 1Good, good, good good, I think. Sandeep, unfortunately, but our loss? there is a huge gain because we have you this week to join us and talk about some fun stuff.
Speaker 3Well, i wish Sandeep was there, because I have a thing about the chutney recipe. Yeah, so maybe we can hook up another time and go over the chutney recipe, perfect, perfect.
Speaker 1We'll hop into a bunch of this versus that in a little bit, but really quick, we're going to talk about our sponsors. We have two sponsors, that's right. We've got one sponsor, daisy Quest, which is an actual play TTRPG set in a South Asian mythology inspired universe built by star GM Jasmine, the Bronze Gole Buller, with a stellar cast that includes Koko Role, darling on Jalebi, mamani, dimension 20 Darling, rika Shankar, and two more darlings, that's right, sandeep and Little Old Me. For more info, you can get our mailing list. Hit us up at daisyquestcom or click the link in our show notes. Thank you so much, sean, for making those show notes happen for us. And our second sponsor it's really special this week We've got a great sponsor.
Speaker 1This is probably my favorite sponsor we've ever had for the show. It's you, that's right. We have patreons that keep the lights on and Sandeep is not here to be singing the names at the end. So maybe my mom and I will try to do that together. We'll see what happens, but head over to patreoncom, slash effinfunny and join in the joy. So we are now going to talk about a whole bunch of stuff. I've got a list of things to discuss with you mother, but also I don't refer to you as mother. This is just a bit. We don't call each other that. We're not all gray gardens when it comes to this. I call you usually what Like mom, right.
Speaker 3Yes.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah. When we were growing up, did you ever want to raise us with more Desi, because we're Bengali on your side of the family? Did you ever want us to refer to you with any Bangla, or were you like, we'll just do this with English?
Speaker 3No, you guys used to call me mama, because the one time you say ma, which would be the special way of saying it. I probably might have heard it.
Speaker 1You didn't hear it, so you think that we were like, oh, that didn't work, we'll move on to the next option.
Speaker 3We did it twice. It's like Vincent Price. Vincent Price, you can usually watch Sesame Street.
Speaker 1Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So the reason that we didn't speak a lot of Bengali in the house was because the ones didn't. We didn't get positive feedback. So growing up we did. There were words in the house that we didn't know. I've got two younger siblings for context. Didn't know were like Desi words like cello, for example, which means like come here quick. Did you want us to grow up with a mixture of language, or was that just easier to say than come over here?
Speaker 3Oh my Lord, how quickly you forget that your father doesn't speak Bengali.
Speaker 1Okay, So it's dad's fault. Came on you.
Speaker 3So I'm reminding you that your father actually does not speak Bengali and I thought it was unfair for me to have private conversations with you guys And he got to miss all the things that I was saying to you guys. Some country is some not so complimentary, so yeah, so we stuck to English because he was raised in UK And his parents kind of let him master the English language only because it was easier in the neighborhood to get along and not get beat up.
Speaker 1Right, okay, so you kept it open. So it was just like everyone kind of shares the same language. Yeah.
Speaker 3But then, when you went to visit your mom, who is my brother, Yeah, who's also named? Sandeep. Yes, His name is also Sandeep And he says hi. By the way They we spoke Bengali from. You know, get go from being picked up at a airport or arriving at their home till the goodbye is when you would bend down, touch their feet and say goodbye and they would bless you And we'd be like until next time. you know, adios, because we are Californians.
Speaker 1I see, okay, so a trilingual household Wonderful, great, yeah I, because when I went to college I tried to learn Hindi and it was tough and I was just like I. Probably I'm just going to do this in a domestic setting. It's a lot easier than going through an academic course for it.
Speaker 3Yeah, it was very complex because you had taken Spanish, the Portuguese and all those other languages that were happening at your school community and your middle brother, amir, had decided to take up Japanese.
Speaker 1And he was yes. Both of my younger siblings speak Japanese.
Speaker 3Yeah fluently and very well. And you are amazing because they used you as the sample, the sample test for international baccalaureate that you studied at high school.
Speaker 2Oh yeah.
Speaker 3Remember they used to do an.
Speaker 1Well, that's the idea of that. The idea that was it was part of a program called lowering the bar, So it was when you base your standard off of somebody's just clearing it, you know it's. it was a no child left behind thing.
Speaker 3But that was not what Mr De Silva told me, because I he's retired, since I'm not in touch with him, but I could go look him now and for an explanation. So the explanation he gave me was that you spoke so well and I would have expected you not less from you, because we are desi people and we expect the best from our children. Forget that So. So what he said to me was that you are voted amongst your peers as the sample person, because the inspector, who come from some European country, from another IB school, would would want your responses for good 20 minutes and they would take it as a sample of the standard of that class.
Speaker 3So you're telling me they didn't pay you, the kids didn't pay you anything, or you didn't get a beer or something on the side. How terrible.
Speaker 1I'm so sorry that I didn't get a beer on the side for taking.
Speaker 3Nothing. Do you enter the school where all sorts of stuff was going on? I know that.
Speaker 1So we have a segment on this show called trucker check in right where we sort of check in on based off of a topic. But I want to go a little bit wider in a discussion with you before we kind of get to the main topic at hand, because I want to talk about TTRPGs with you, roland Dice, playing in a world of fantasy, and also how Indian culture affects that and how you've absorbed fantasy over time. But first, what is your? Okay? so I'm, i was born in the US, i was born here, so I'm an American born. They see, which is the idea of, like ABC the American born, Chattie daisies, you're like Daisy, daisy, like you're from India. You were, you were born in Delhi, right, no?
Speaker 3I was not, and I just realized that I've been nodding my head so you can see me. So it's good that my picture is twitching that it looks.
Speaker 1It looks like when you're in trouble. That's what it looks like. It's the specific nod of just like.
Cultural Identity and Celebrity Encounters
Speaker 3Well, okay so yeah, that's what I was going to say. I am Bengali by my ethnicity.
Speaker 3My parents are Bengali speaking people. My father, my grandparents, actually come from what is now Bangladesh and my mother is from what is India. So they were Bengalis, but they were from two different areas. Okay, so we actually lived when I was born. I was born in a town called Lucknow, which is in the United provinces. It's called now And it's predominantly Muslim population. Mostly Muslim people sort of live there because of the way the the conquerors went, you know, the Turku Mongols. They used to live there and stuff.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 3So that's why my name actually is Malika, which is my proper name is Malika, and it means it's an Arabic or Urdu word, which means the queen. So now you get the attitude. I hope so, all right.
Speaker 2I'm looking around for a crown for you.
Speaker 1So okay. So, as someone from India, india, the here in, especially in California, there is a lot of like like when you go into a very crystal shop, there's a lot of like chakra stuff, there's a lot of like yoga stuff, there's a lot of Namaste. How do you feel about that, are you? are you like oh yeah, i check in with my chakras like all the time. I want to make sure they're all aligned. What's your relationship with that, or are you just like? this is?
Speaker 1no, no, no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1Like I'm thinking, this is something that needs to be fixed Again. I'm like, oh well, i think that I might not have been able to come with my hands, i've always been able to make sure that all this chakras will be paid, just the returns, and that all this is all done withuma 19ill, the greatness, and all this is all done with the scriptures, right? So incredible, the amazing ones. And then we all really kind of like I don't know if you're talking about like realize that, like it was likeとか's, about the mind of, like fuck autonomy and the sense of know, like that guy when we were at the half marathon who turned to us and went Namaste, like are you like, oh cool, our culture is like popular, or you like know this is being taken away from us, or Answer is very simple.
Speaker 3If he was cute, if he was cute. It would have been okay if he was ugly. Hell, no.
Speaker 1So okay, so it's really just a shallow basis thing. Okay, so you're just playing the field, got it Okay?
Speaker 3Listen, listen, when you live in California, you have to be, you have to act like the Californian chicks. Okay, so I adopted that really good, just as much as I did when I had, when I went to live in England, and I, yes, and I had to. You know like people would ask me where did you learn to speak English? Well, duh, where do you think I came from? You know, that's why I speak English. So it's one of the things you know.
Speaker 1So And that's a fun fact about you. You lived in England for a good portion of time before you came to the States. Did you have an English accent when you moved here?
Speaker 3Yes, absolutely darling.
Speaker 1And it was like that.
Speaker 3Of course it was.
Speaker 1I refuse to believe that that was how you used to go to the pub and talk.
Speaker 3How would I ask for the beer?
Speaker 1Give us, okay, give us a run through. Then, like you go, you go up to the Tavern Keep. Right, i'm an American, so I imagine that anything in the UK is, like you know, 1500s. So you go to the Tavern Keep, you go to order a drink. How would you do it with your accent?
Speaker 3I would go up there and I would say, servant, get me a drink.
Speaker 1There's no, there's no. You had to have them. You had to have had the most like common British accent. Like I can only picture you. I was like stop already. I can only picture you going up and like, oh, like that's I feel like that's the way you do it. Okay So, but you don't have, you don't like you know all the chakras off the top of your head.
Speaker 3Before, before a drink or after a drink. Before, Oh yeah, before the chakras before the drink.
Speaker 1Okay, Can you? could you like name them.
Speaker 3No, why.
Speaker 1Okay, like, like right now. If I asked you to like go through because my thing is here's, i guess, my thesis. I think that there are. There are definitely people in Los Angeles, where I live, that know so much more about this aspect of like they see culture than I do because, like they're, they're so much more like well, this is this chakra. This is this chakra. I've actually learned more by being on this show than I think I knew before you. Coming from India, is it a thing that came up a lot, or did you first start hearing about this stuff and yoga and everything when you moved to the States?
Speaker 3No, yoga came from home, so we knew all of that and chakras. but also, don't forget, i was a teenager during the whole hippie movement.
Speaker 1Right right. So don't forget that I hung around with George Harrison, you did not hang out with George Harrison.
Speaker 3All right, I was there at a concert with him. He sat in front.
Speaker 1Were you at a concert with him or at his concert? Because those are two different things.
Speaker 3No, i was OK. There was a concert of stop, you're confusing me now I'm an old woman. So there was a concert that I was invited to And I was told that it was going to be something I would really enjoy and people I would enjoy, and it was Alarakha's son, the tabla player, who I liked very much. And then they said and there might be somebody else you'd like. And I thought, oh OK, i'll give it a try, i don't care. So I went there and I saw two very nice looking guys I was not single at that time, so I did not overplay it And then, when I was introduced, i just did the Namaste thing, because everybody thinks that's the only way to greet in India, which is very wrong, because we all have our own, like you, don't? you don't go to a Sikh person and say you know, namaste, what's your chakra? You know. You go there and you say sasekata, jithisekita people.
Speaker 3Yeah because I speak five Indian languages. OK, so yeah, it's, you go and greet people in an appropriate way. So this chakra thing is I think it's a very California thing.
Speaker 1OK, we do So wait, hold on, hold on, before we move on. though. you met George Harrison, like did you meet him in person? OK, omar.
Speaker 3I'm feeling sad right now that it's such an important aspect of my life and you are just playing it down.
Speaker 1I mean I'm asking did you meet George Like, like, like you can see, like I saw the Pixies in concert? I've never met the Pixies. Did you meet George Harrison there that night?
Speaker 3Like I said, is that meeting or just sitting next to him and just being polite and, you know, just exchanging pleasantries?
Speaker 1Did you know it was George Harrison at the time.
Speaker 3Oh my God, Do you think I did all through my high school not knowing the rules?
Speaker 1So what Am I learning this on? Twitch for the No excuse me.
Speaker 3I'm switching very badly here. I can send myself OK, wait, really quickly. Are you going to now deny that I went to see you two?
Speaker 1No, no, I was not going to deny that. Thank you. Ok, so really quickly, let's. Let's move on to our next topic.
Speaker 2She might get the best chicken.
Speaker 1Let's, let's do, let's call that the checker, checker. Honestly, i think there we go.
Speaker 3So I can't even mention Rod Stewart at this point. I know we didn't show, you didn't meet Rod Stewart. Dude, I was three years in nursing school. What do you think I did? What does?
Speaker 1that mean Did you, did you deliver Rod Stewart as a baby? Is that what you're trying to say?
Speaker 3No, why would I? Oh God, you can come sit in your mind I would hit on a child.
Speaker 1No, no, no, that's the additional detail that was not discussed earlier. That was a dishful thing. Did you meet Rod Stewart? Did you exchange words with Rod Stewart?
Speaker 3And I'm not going to tell you that till I find out that if I'm getting paid for this show or not, or do I have to get a manager?
Role-Playing Games With South Asian Influence
Speaker 1OK, so let's move on to our next segment. Let's I want to talk to you about tabletop role playing games, because we played Dungeons and Dragons for the first time together. Yes, yes, yes, was that your first time playing D&D?
Speaker 3Yes, it was.
Speaker 1And you decided on your. This is your first time playing D&D, your first time getting familiar with the system. So you played an artificer the easiest class to play, the most straightforward. Did you have a good time? Did you enjoy it?
Speaker 3I had the most fantastic time because your dad made it so fun, I mean we were all here.
Speaker 1As your GM, I also feel like there might have been a lot of it All the three brothers.
Speaker 3you guys were pro at it, So that was all a miracle with us.
Speaker 1No, maybe no, no, no, it was Yeah yeah, it was just others.
Speaker 3Yeah, ok, so yeah, no, it was. it was a lot of fun. I mean, i've heard you guys talk about it and it was. it was a good thing And I, you know, i'm into drama and theater and stuff.
Speaker 2So that was that was.
Speaker 1So you enjoyed the role playing aspect of it. Like you like creating a character, playing the character.
Speaker 3Yeah, who doesn't I? My name is Paradise.
Speaker 1The character's name is Paradise. That's right, do you? what aspect of yourself do you feel like you brought to the character of Paradise?
Speaker 3This is so sad. You know there's nothing about your mother and I'm No the way interview works.
Speaker 1Is I set you up for an answer?
Speaker 3It's like it's not my own mission, like I'm Oh, i've got to remove those tears away from you. Ok, i really did enjoy it because I was trying to portray a kindler, gentler person And yeah, so do you think you're Till I realize?
Speaker 1Sorry go ahead. No, no, no, you go ahead. I interrupted you.
Speaker 3I was just saying that I was. You know, i had the way, when we were developing my character and my personality and whatnot, my profile, i tried to be like kindler and gentler person because, as you know, I have you know degree in nursing and I was just like, oh, you know, i'm going to be really nice and kind to you. That started bombing everyone mercilessly And I was like hell, this is not going to go down. Well, so I got to be Yeah.
Speaker 1So I just Yeah, my father, your husband, played a barbarian.
Speaker 3Oh my husband, when did you find that out? No, it's OK, I'm joking.
Speaker 1You have to remember. they can't see you, so so all they do, all they can hear, is, all they experience is you saying these things. So I appreciate you clarifying. I guess they can't see your face.
Speaker 3You can do that next time, when I'm all nicely made up which ones for yes and twice for no.
Speaker 1Oh, yeah, he's. He's usually a very quiet, sort of reserved gentleman. He gets very worked up when he's talking about cameras, but for the most part he's pretty non confrontational. And he decided to play a barbarian and just fought every person available, fought every NPC that was offered up And yeah, you noted, mom, that you're like I've never seen this side of you before As he decided to constantly rage and then take as many rests as possible to keep bringing that number back up. So you, what aspect of the gameplay did you think was the most fun when we played?
Speaker 3The strategy. I would say we had to strategize.
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 3And and at some point you do realize that you know you can be like. in India we have a saying that we, you know, like, if don't be, how do I say it? Don't be too tall, because the wind will blow you down. Okay, don't be bored, because the cow will, you know, chew you down. So you have to strike a balance somewhere in the middle. So I really did realize that I had gained some confidence and stuff. you know, being the kind of a gentle person, but it surely was fun watching your dad. So I think next time I'm taking that dude on, you're gonna PVP, you're gonna fight him.
Speaker 1Oh, totally, i'll be ready for that. There's nothing like a holiday game in the family like PVP, so that's very good. You have to buy me some more dice. You have two sets now, right I?
Speaker 3do. They're the most beautiful ones Yes, gorgeous, and thank you so much for them. Of course, of course, the most beautiful ones Yes, gorgeous, and thank you so much for them.
Speaker 1Of course. Of course This show is here because of Daisy Quest, which is a TTRPG featuring all South Asian players. It's set in a South Asian inspired world that Jasmine has crafted. So I wanted to ask you, as someone who's kind of fresh into TTRPGs in general whether that's D&D, Pathfinder, Fate, whatever Fantasy so often is or has been up until recently, in terms of how we interact in the nerd world, like centered in European and Eurocentric sort of medieval fantasy, a lot of like post-Tokyan stuff What is your if you could write fantasy, if you could tell a story in a fantasy universe with magic and stuff, how much of your South Asian background would you bring? Because we have an entire mythology behind, we have a collection of mythologies behind us. What would you bring if you could influence or write a story?
Speaker 3Oh my God, I think we taught the world what a fantasy is.
Speaker 1That's the most Indian answer I've ever heard. Yeah, please continue.
Speaker 3Let's face it. I mean, we have taught the world a lot of things. Yes, so yeah, are all these mythological stories that we have? like? you know, everybody loves Krishna, but why the hell is he blue? I mean, so I don't know why he's blue, but it is a fantasy thing, right? I?
Speaker 3mean so I mean all those holy and non-holy books that I grew up with. They all have so much mythological stuff And you can, as a child, you are allowed to let your mind go. You know, and I encouraged as a mother, i really encouraged you guys's creativity, which is why all three of you are so different and yet so similar in that aspect, because you for one, you know you're an author and you write and your imagination is just fantastic. Your brother, middle brother, he's a park ranger. He goes on hugging trees and talking to Don't laugh, he's bigger than you, he could beat you up.
Speaker 1I think he's too occupied hugging those trees. And Imran, my youngest sibling they're an artist and they run art galleries And they are a gamer. That's also true.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, you're right, yeah, yeah, there is the Artistic Spirit of League of Legends of course, of course.
Speaker 1So yeah, do you think there?
Speaker 3should be. I didn't name that because I wasn't sure if I was allowed to name things.
Speaker 1so Do you think there should be more South Asian influence in fantasy stories in the United States of America, considering how many DC storytellers there are?
Speaker 3So what I think? because I'm a very independent person and I kind of live my life the way I envision it, and I Without causing grief to other people, of course. So I think that you know it should be out there for people to see, because in my experience, my children, or my Yeah, my boy guys have, you know, had the freedom of choice and they choose whoever they want to be partners with and and they it's their choice to kind of Envision whatever their fantasy is not everybody's fantasies are the same, right, right, right. Yeah, your dad's fantasy is like totally Out there in the electronic universe. Otherwise, how does this guy pull these? you know new designs, you know heartbeat.
Speaker 2Yeah, very true Yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, very. I mean we we saw Tron like over times during our early days of dating because it was just like whoa and me being in going through nursing school at the time. And with the clinical psychology I was like this is weird. But then the whole universe changed. Everything became Tron, right, right We came acceptable.
Speaker 1So was Tron a date movie for you to.
Speaker 3Oh, I would have to think what happened before and after. Okay, so let's move on.
Speaker 1I got some questions from chat that I'm gonna let you know. Let's go ahead and bring up these questions from John Harper. I got a question for you How did you become so awesome?
Speaker 3John, are you one of my kids that I don't know I had? I love the compliment, honey, And and you're wonderful, I am not. I will just just issue a word of caution right now because I am like those fantasy. You know, goddess Kali, you know the one that her husband's beheaded Skull in her hand. So I can be that. It just depends upon what extent I've been pissed off.
Speaker 1Your humility knows no limits. mother, i am not unlike the goddess Kali My name. my name means your majesty. You there, boy, fetch me a beer in the pub.
Speaker 2Let me get the crown back.
Speaker 1There we go. Do you? can you see that you have a crown on the screen?
Speaker 3Yeah, I do. That's beautiful. Where are the earrings? They're missing the earrings. You've got requests.
Speaker 1You've got feedback. I didn't realize.
Speaker 3I wish I knew it was happening. I would have worn matching clothes.
Speaker 1Danny's corner, an incredible artist, not unlike yourself, because you're a very Hey. Has Marla ever played any video games?
Speaker 3Yeah, i'm very slow, my reactions are not so fast. So playing them at home with my peeps it would be a disaster because they'd like you know, yeah, they would beat me so much. And I also, i used to play wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm just recalling, in the other course I used to play Mario. Remember I played Mario with you guys And I got dizzy.
Speaker 1You're rewriting one of my favorite guild episodes. Yeah, it's, you played Mario Kart, right, it wasn't Mario.
Speaker 2Kart.
Speaker 1Do you? are you played as?
Speaker 3I did. I think that's how I got dizzy, because I just couldn't stand up. Which character which?
Speaker 1character are you? Who did you play as you play, as donkey Kong, do you remember?
Speaker 3No, i was that blondie girl, my, my altered ego, princess Peach.
Speaker 1Yeah, All right, and I've got one last question before we move on, and then we'll, at the end, hop on to back onto a couple more of these questions. But before we move on to our speed round, i've got one question from our good friend Rick Bud, my personal GM for the show. Power play, if you want to check that out.
Speaker 3I'm waving. Hello, i need to switch.
Favorite Stories and Debates
Speaker 1Yes, I like that you waved to activate the twitching, which is activated by your voice. Also, just so you can connect the dots. Mom, you know that the sticker you have on the fridge of the character I played, the cartoon version of me that I asked for names and stuff like Indian words. That's the show that I was on, that Rick GM. So Rick asked favorite Omar story.
Speaker 3Do I want to live, live after I tell the stories or no, actually, correction, i am just all. My stories are always really, really good And he is a perfect. Well, okay, sorry.
Speaker 1These are stories to clarify. these are Perfect. Well, wait, hang on.
Speaker 3Sorry, I was thinking about another child.
Speaker 1I never realized, i was confused.
Speaker 3No, no, my God, i would have so many if I knew I was going to be asked because, yeah, all good, i have a really cute one from. We went to reset place. We went in Arizona, you know that fun place, that all the young said don't know. There is story that lady was trying to sell us a property and we had left you guys at the apartment and said don't open the door to anyone, don't talk to anyone.
Speaker 1Yeah, i'm share place to rent a place that was on a vortex. Yes, okay, well, good story.
Speaker 3And then we realized that we had left you longer than we thought we should have. So we we got up and we wanted to leave. And then your dad said, well, jokingly, gentlemen that he is, he joked that day and said Hey, by the way, people that don't know, omar's dad was raised in UK. So he is, yeah, he's not super desi, yes, he's very British, and anyways. So he said jokingly, he said, well, can I have my 50 bucks back because I didn't attend the whole thing? And the lady got really upset. She goes Well, we didn't ask you to leave, you're leaving. So we said, oh, okay, so it'll be okay to put it in the newspaper that we had to leave there because you wouldn't allow us to bring our kids. And the woman goes Oh, we didn't know you had kids. I said Well, you didn't ask, but you know you did say that no kids. So we took it at that.
Speaker 1So anyway, that was like a fun story, but I think your favorite story of me is of you and dad leaving us at a house. Let me quickly just get that straight really quickly, you're okay. So that's a fun. Yeah, that's a real fun story of me.
Speaker 3No, it was. It wasn't fun, but I'm just saying that that's the worst I could think of. Was I supposed to say, like the best story, there'd be too many, i'd be here till Kingdom comes?
Speaker 1It's a very political cover. I appreciate. I appreciate the the switchback on that. So now that we've covered some questions, now that we've gotten our base in role playing games, we are going to hop over to American born versus Dacey. So on this show we have an ongoing segment where we each pick an American side thing and a Dacey side thing and then we debate them back and forth. You and I are not going to have to debate, i am just going to go through them and I want you to choose which of the two And it's not necessarily just your favorite of the two, but also keep in mind the one you don't choose disappears from the world. It's gone. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3Wait, wait, but if, oh, meaning it is like a cumulative thing.
Speaker 1No, like you like. If, for example, let me think of one that we haven't done yet Let's say, crackers versus pop it on, okay, and if you chose pop it on, there's no crackers anymore, they're all gone. Trader Joe's doesn't have crackers. You've erased it from existence, so it's a very high stake. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3I go from Whole Foods to because they're gone.
Speaker 1It would also. That's correct. It would also go from Whole Foods. Yeah, that's correct. So your first one Are you ready for this? Yes, okay. Your first one is Christmas lights versus candles. Candles, you're keeping candles. Yes, christmas lights are gone for forever. Which one do you think the audience voted for to keep?
Speaker 3Oh, i don't know. Do they know that I'm a party girl and I like candles?
Speaker 1and If they didn't before, they know now, they know now, but that means you can ask this question again anyways, because the lights are.
Speaker 3Well, this is, that was previously voted.
Speaker 1When we were doing the segment, people did ask Omar, is your mama party girl? Because that will really influence which way we we vote in the poll.
Speaker 3You know, but this man you know how to party, because candle lights versus candles, christmas lights, i don't know. I blew up the remember at your brother's Wedding ceremony I had so many lights that I kept blowing the fuse and your dad would get mad at me because I'd put so many lights All around the swimming pool and the tree lights and everything. So, just on the personal, Vengeance I would go with candles.
Speaker 1Okay, you are correct, the audience won't with candles. The audience voted candles. They're getting to know me, so also this is previous. These are previously voted. I just so you know. Chai versus coffee What do you pick?
Speaker 3You know that's really hard because I've been told to get off caffeine.
Speaker 1Okay so. You're picking coffee, mm-hmm, so coffee stays. Chai's gone for forever. Yeah, can I ask why?
Speaker 3Because I am not allowed to drink it. So whatever little I can, i keep it with me.
Speaker 1Just like As in the necklace like you know little like heart necklace You've got a tiny bit of coffee. You carry that. You just remember what it was like to absorb that.
Speaker 3Well, i have some really good handbags too, you know okay, i don't know what that means. I don't understand, i would shove it in my purse, the granules, stealing coffee? No, i wouldn't steal, i went. When I was at Seattle a few days ago, i bought you coffee. Yes or that's because I knew you'd appreciate it and I would miss it.
Speaker 1So I okay. Oh, thank you. So you're looking out for me, because I defended coffee. Coffee was my argument. Unfortunately, chat went with Chai, so coffee got erased.
Speaker 3Yeah, you know okay. So am I allowed to tell you some anecdotal things?
Speaker 1Yeah, you're allowed to tell me some anecdotal things. Is this about you and dad doing a time-share in?
Speaker 3No, no, no, no, it's not time-share. Okay when I, when I was a little girl growing up and there was weddings and things at the family.
Speaker 2Uh-huh.
Speaker 3I was responsible for making the first cold run off Chai, so I said cold run, i did not say a teapot.
Speaker 3No this meant I was responsible for hydrating all the oldies, goldies and all the little ones and everyone the chef and the Everybody in the house. Yeah, it was the lowliest creature In the family that had to make the tea because they told me I made the best tea. So I vowed to myself that when I grow up I would never do it to my children and I do it to never do it to myself. So I Won't drink tea. So you know that I'm a coffee fiend right, okay, there we go, there we go.
Speaker 1Perfect, so you've got like some familial history behind that?
Speaker 3Did you get any people that identified with me? I would be very curious to know, because all Young girls in India get slammed with such duties during weddings and things.
Speaker 1Uh, yeah, i can ask if anyone in chat has had that experience. The next one on the list. Actually, let me skip one just because you're talking about how you prepare to cold run of Chai And that's scarred you for life at a wedding. American weddings versus Daisy weddings which one are you picking? You can only pick one. What do you like better?
Speaker 3Oh, does it not come with a location?
Speaker 1No location. It's like the style of it, like an American style wedding, a daisy style wedding.
Speaker 3And style of wedding I'd have to go with with daisy.
Speaker 1Yeah, what do you think chat shows?
Speaker 3What did I do? was I said again sorry, one more time? What?
Speaker 1do you think chat shows They see wedding or American wedding? What do you think one?
Speaker 3Jack shows.
Speaker 1Yeah, like when people voted.
Speaker 2It's what all are talking about chat. He's talking about like the. The viewers were watching the show who are, like, actively chatting with us.
Speaker 1Yeah the audience like shorthand the audience.
Speaker 3What are the?
Speaker 2audience pick.
Speaker 3See, he should be in my family. He gets me I.
Speaker 1Told them beforehand that my mom would like him more than me. I knew it. I knew it would happen. I knew it would happen.
Speaker 3This is why I did not tell any bad stories about you Not that there were any because I did not want you to feel bad and say I have yet another brother in my family now And then my mom doesn't love me.
Speaker 1So do you think? do you think people voted to keep American weddings or keep daisy weddings?
Speaker 3I think they said they see weddings. I'm a party, you're correct. You're correct.
Speaker 1Okay, the ongoing party girl logic applies. Wonderful, wonderful. How about sit tar versus guitar?
Speaker 3Oh, depends on who's playing it, if it's a Ravi Shankar or is it George Harrison?
Speaker 1Yeah, if it's what? if it's one of your two good friends, ravi Shankar, or your friend Jordan Harrison?
Speaker 3You have to choose one other very good friends to. You're getting bono, that's right.
Speaker 1Yeah, you hugged and who you delivered to birth. So who, yeah? so of the two, which one do you pick? guitar, sitar Sit down, okay, all right, why?
Speaker 3Because I wanted to throw you people off.
Speaker 1Okay, it's an exact situation. Chat chose guitar, so sit, tars got just erased, destroyed from time and that was that was close on deep, just so you know. All right, how about this one? this one's gonna this one's gonna be interesting, because I actually don't know how familiar you are with this American football, right, nfl. You used to watch Niners games, you watch the Super Bowl, american football versus gubby.
Speaker 3Who plays. Come on D here, i Won't go. If it is like totally, i would go, it's. You know Stanford. Stanford has a huge cricket team.
Speaker 2Right, mm-hmm.
Speaker 3Stanford has it, fremont has it, all these other neighborhoods have them. I have not heard of come on D.
Speaker 1So if you have to choose one, what would you choose?
Speaker 3Do you know their uniform?
Speaker 1I don't know the company uniform.
Speaker 3Okay, i shouldn't say it.
Speaker 1I'm your mother, but Okay, which one do you choose?
Speaker 3But the people. They dress up like Sumo wrestlers okay. Just a hint to dress down.
Speaker 1Okay, really slim down. If you have to choose one American football or cubby.
Speaker 3Yeah, I like I have to say American football Okay.
Speaker 1Okay, what do you think chat shows? Which one do you think one in the poll?
Speaker 3I Think they might have chosen cubby.
Speaker 1You're not gonna leave this. It was a tie. It was 50, 50, exactly a tie.
Speaker 3Yeah, see, they're beginning to think I'm crazy, so I know it's again, these are old results.
Speaker 1You, you're like Hawaii voting, it's like it's like late, like it's it's already set. So really quickly, i'm gonna break with tradition a little bit. Apologies for editors, but just because we've got some TTRPG people up in the mix in chat, we're very complimentary, very wonderful, very creative. One of my favorite systems is lasers and feelings. I wanted to ask which are you, lasers or feelings? lasers is very good at like a Technical things, logical tasks. Feelings is like you're very good at speeches, talking to people. Which one are you, lasers or feelings?
Speaker 1feelings okay, that makes sense. That completely checks out.
Speaker 3Yeah, you know, i'm in the healthcare business, right.
Speaker 1You've mentioned it at least once before in this episode alone, that you have a nursing background and that you deliver and I have really nice feelings for nice, kind people like George Harrison was. Believe you're like. By the end of this episode it will have averaged out that I've heard this story once per year of my life. I've never heard it until today. I didn't know you met George Harrison. I had like DVD concerts of George Harrison and you never were like that's my buddy. I sat next to him.
Speaker 3That's because I have them too and I would not want to. And don't forget, i a member of KQED. They sent me free DVDs when I pay my membership.
Speaker 1When you pay your membership. That's the, that's the key phrase. Okay, we've got two more for you. Are you ready? Yep, bollywood versus Hollywood which one you keeping? Oh?
Speaker 3Oh, i'm getting keeping.
Speaker 1Bollywood keeping Bollywood, getting rid of Hollywood. Yeah what's your reasoning?
Speaker 3Bollywood has better dancing.
Speaker 1There you go. You heard it here first. You heard it first. Fast and furious catch up, get those dancing numbers up. So you're sticking with which one do you think that the audience kept? I?
Speaker 3Think they kept Bollywood.
Speaker 1Unfortunately, they kept Hollywood.
Speaker 3Oh, they did.
Speaker 1Yeah, i'm sorry, i'm sorry.
Speaker 3Oh, they have to get better choreographers.
Speaker 1And This is the final one. I think you already have some opinions on this chutney versus ketchup. What is the superior condiment Which is better? What's a better food pairing chutney or ketchup?
Speaker 3So can I? okay, i'm gonna close my books here that I had of the questions. You didn't ask me about my art interest. You didn't ask me about my cinematography. Nevermind, i Want to check these, i would. I would go with chutney, even though there was some defense offered for ketchup.
Speaker 1There were a lot of poor defenses offered for ketchup by Sante Yeah.
Speaker 3You know, the thing about chutney is that it's very versatile.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's what I said.
Speaker 3It's very seasonal, It's very aromatic And it is also like the least expected surprise condiment. It's like when you, when we. You know that I'm very fond of cooking other foreign foods too, right, So when I would have Argentinian food and stuff you know I would. I would make, forgetting the name. Now, what is their chutney, called Argentinian one, you know, with S. Anyway, it'll come to me.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 3I'll tell you Yeah. So yeah, i would. I would keep chutney because it's, it's a huge. Yeah, there's a variety and you can make it, you can freeze it, you can, you know, chill it, you can give it.
Speaker 2Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1You know, you know who would you give ketchup to Like? imagine, like, oh, a new neighbor, here you go, here's a bottle of ketchup That doesn't seem like a gift?
Speaker 3No, it isn't.
Speaker 1Would you ever do that? Would you ever give someone just a bottle of ketchup, a Heinz ketchup bottle?
Speaker 3No, not, unless I was giving the steak that goes with it.
Speaker 1There you go. I mean dining at its best. The audience voted for ketchup in that one.
Speaker 2Oh.
Speaker 1I'm sorry, i know I'm so sorry. I know.
Speaker 3Yeah, i love to cook and I love to make on these condiments and things. Yeah, have you ever made ketchup? I know My mom used to make jam. I have jammed. Mm-hmm, i have not jammed, as in jamming, you know.
Speaker 1Music wise with your best friend George Harrison.
Speaker 3I hope you like jamming too. Not that jamming.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 3That's a good thing to find, yeah, so why can't I recall that, my favorite condiment from Argentina?
Speaker 1I'm just feeling really bad, well we'll have to have you back, i suppose, to figure out which condiment that is. We are going to wrap up in a second. but, as you mentioned, you are an artist And you know we talk a lot on the show about what it's like to be an artist and to explore your identity and your cultural identity through art. So I just wanted to throw you a quick little question of how much do you think your South Asian identity has affected your art And then, with a little follow-up, do you think that sometimes it can be a little confining that people see you as a South Asian artist and not just an artist artist?
Speaker 3Oh yeah, that's the. Both of those questions are really good questions And, by the way, i took that line from you because you say it sometimes and it sounds so good, so thanks.
Speaker 1So you didn't mean it, No.
Speaker 3I'm joking, So reason. okay, I will tell you very, very quickly. I'm just going to put that in the comments and I will be sure to do that. I'm sure you've seen it a lot of times. running out and our guests have arrived, So I should be out there serving dinner.
Speaker 1That's keeping them company by the way, so Mitanti is here with Sibashanko.
Speaker 3I love on the podcast, you to sing their names.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's not the real names. Okay, there you go. That's your second really good cover up of the episode.
Speaker 3This is, don't Be a Maze, it is dude like that, and maybe introducing that to Acala Khan yeah, it is Suniz 가선 세� 뛴60ن по undermine, shameful. It is not the old dude, you're the guy that I really like and I don't believe that. that thatとか is just that Position. That onebene balancing that task. Oh, again, theputin is definitely the one coming or the other 8 probability, educated and is respected offers this ceremony to this child, who is probably around two or three. Okay, They, they, yeah. So you buy a new slate, you know, because that's what we used to use as a. You know, we didn't have iPads and things at that time. So you actually they, they teach you, they write, they hold your hand and they write the alphabet and the numeric numbers and things.
Speaker 3And they bless you with the knowledge and all of that. So that is that is. it's a big thing that that is done. Bengalis do it for sure, and I think the others may do it also. So so it starts from there, and you, you literally watch so much art and literature and stuff around your home which is, you know, and it's not like how shall I say it? It's not like fake, it's genuine. you know, like we have designs for certain days of the week because we appease certain gods with certain patterns and their chakras and things you know. So, so, yeah, so I tried to incorporate that in my art And when, when I teach my classes, i always ask the students to actually take two minutes to just calm. and you know, like, are you?
Speaker 3yeah, what a shame you can't see my hands. You center yourself and you, you literally not pray, but you ask for a blessing that what you're about to learn today would be useful to you in the future and that you would get fun and joy from it. And I have started to incorporate it very recently with some of the classes that I teach for the seniors, because I think that for them too, because they get anxious, thinking that, oh my God, what is she going to teach today And will I be capable of doing a good job or not?
Speaker 3So, if you say prayer and it's like a mantra, you know you don't have to repeat anything, you don't have to chant it or anything, you just just calm yourself and say Hey, miss Marla's, here we're going to have a great time, and so what if it isn't to my satisfaction, meaning their satisfaction.
Speaker 1Yeah, i love that because I feel like when people talk about their cultural backgrounds and how they affect their art, a lot of it is very about the aesthetic. A lot of it is very about, like, the actual content of it, not necessarily like, like what you're saying, the practice, the philosophy of it. It doesn't matter what ends up on the canvas, it is about the artist, right.
Speaker 1It's about who you are, and you have brought a practice from your background that influences how you make art. It's not just the product, it's not what's consumed, it's how you do it. So since we're getting close to time, I'm just going to ask you if you can think of a one sentence piece of advice to give to artists across all disciplines, across the board. one sentence what's a piece of advice you give to people? It doesn't have to be like from a South Asian perspective, It can just be anything. What's your one piece of advice?
Speaker 3Your premise is so wrong because you've limited me to just one sentence. Don't you know I could have written like four chapters of Bhagavad Gita on that. I'm not being disrespectful. My advice to artists in any form of practice, whether you're a teacher, you're a learner, you just like to doodle or you'd like to scribble, just bring joy into it. It's like my other body, yes, joy of painting the member. After summer swimming lessons, what did we do? We brought our sandwiches. Tv and we would. Did we watch?
Speaker 1Bob Ross.
Speaker 3Thank you, joy of painting.
Speaker 2Is that where you met Bob Ross?
Speaker 3I'm not kidding you, we that was our Ritual in during the summer we would attend our swimming lessons, we'd come back home. It didn't, it didn't matter if I had to bring back eight, nine, ten kids with me because their parents had other things going on. We would make sandwiches, we would sit down and we would watch Bob Ross and and those kids still Run into me at stores and things and they go. Miss Marla, i have to tell you that I love Drawing, i love sketching, and that was just so much fun that we used to do and that was one way of Keeping all these guys shout quiet, you know. So, yeah, so, have fun, enjoy it. It's not about perfection, it's not about, i mean, think about all the artists that went into like crazy. You know Interpretations of art, which was not. You know The castle, i mean, okay, so you know that I've broken my arm and I wouldn't be able to paint for a while.
Speaker 1My mom is recently broken her arm, unfortunately.
Speaker 3Yes, Sorry, yes, but so you know that Auntie Caroline, she my best friend from England. She came and she supported me and she says you have to change your name because you're going to be Jackie Pulaski, because you're going to just take the brush, splash the paint all over. So I'm going to be Jackson Pollock, you know so. So it's the joy of what you can do and you can do, and I'm learning to write with my left hand And I know it's not a great print printing Work, i mean I would have.
Speaker 3I would have torn your homework and tossed it in the garbage if you had written it like that, because We're, they see, family. If everything has to be really good, yeah, so yeah. But anyways, my, my one advice is have fun with it. How many sentences was what that?
Speaker 1Yeah. Yeah, that was a falter sense, don't worry about it.
Speaker 3I need to get out from the next show.
Speaker 1Oh, you think, well, we'll take the time out from the next show. You, yeah, you're reclaiming the next episode's time, i see.
Speaker 3I'm hoping I did my best.
Speaker 1Well, i'm gonna do a really quick sign out and then We'll sort of close this part out. But, mom, i just want to say a huge Thank you for joining us today. What an absolute pleasure to spend. We've talked about a bunch of stuff, cut a lot of topics. How do you feel about it? How do you feel about your first episode on ABCD?
Therapeutic and Fun Conversation With Host
Speaker 3I Loved it. This was so therapeutic for me. Rather than sitting there going, i've got to, you know, wiggle my fingers and worry about this or that. So thank you for giving me joy, thank you for giving me beauty, and I had a lot of fun. Yeah, i did so.
Speaker 1I think we'll definitely have you back, because I think you do want to argue with Sundeep on a couple of those of this points, of those votes, right.
Speaker 3The Japanese. He was right on several points. You know, i'm just, you guys are all my children and I, you know, and I know you guys are all adults and it should not be put down as children. But you know, sometimes I just like to do it for fun, so You know.
Speaker 1So yeah, good, all right, i'm gonna do this sign out and then I'll let you go be a be a wonderful, gracious host. So if you can bear with me for just a couple seconds just to close out the podcast, that's the show, as always, if you want to see our lovely faces, all the VOD and other ways you can hang out with us Are in the show notes. Please write and comment. It really, really helps us out. Go to a podcast, a Service of your choice. Leave us a rating, leave us a comment So other people can discover the podcast. Comment suggestions, feedback can be sent to ABCD podcast show at gmailcom or you can hop on our discord. There you can go for our podcast schedule and also These requests is coming up at the end of summer.
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Speaker 2I see what you were.
Speaker 1I see what you went for. We have different instincts, i suppose. Yeah, give me a beat and then you hitting the double. It was a different sort of thing. Getting the dandy of sticks is a different type of thing that I expected. But thank you to the patreon's who put money in our bank, which includes Joshua Ryan, tom BM Carlo, who's? Zach Benjamin low Brandon, pace hunter, p Brown, legion 247, miranda Hollinger, vaden, michael long. The show is produced by Diego, and now the show's technical director and sound designer is Dalvin Neville, who also made sure that my mom was able to join us today. The shows executive producers are Sunday Perican and on Shaw. This is edited by Sean meager. Thank you to our incredible composers on this show. This has been an effin funny production. On behalf of your host, me, your co-host son deep, who is out traveling the world, and your guest host Marlon Nijam, may your chakras be aligned and smothered in chutney.
Speaker 2All right. And then here's where, sean, we're still live to twitch, but no one else will know what we're talking about. And there it is. There it is well.
Speaker 1You have to. You have to dash off and do some dinner stuff, right, mom?
Speaker 3No, I want to say something to.
Speaker 1Everyone. Okay, you're still. Just so you know you're still on the internet. Oh, no, no, no.
Speaker 3I can't.
Speaker 2Wait what are you I?
Speaker 3Can't tell you that one It's.
Speaker 2Do you, do you want to do you want to take a few questions from chat?
Speaker 1Marla, do you need to?
Speaker 3I'm gonna call you on Omar's cell phone. Take my call. It's really chill, it's. It's you love your head off. It's really fun.
Speaker 1I mean, hold on, what's the logic of this? Well, let's take Really quick, let's see We will get. We'll take two to three questions from chat really quickly, but you, you're gonna call me on my phone. How's Yeah?
Speaker 3how's you hear it?
Speaker 1Pardon is you? So wait, what do you? what do you want? Do you? do you want to send me a message and I can put it? I can send it privately in discord.
Speaker 3No oh my god, listen, i am going to call you on your phone.
Speaker 1Uh-huh, and you're gonna put it to them.
Speaker 3Yes, and Devon's gonna call you.
Speaker 2We're not the internet. We could just talk in this control room.
Speaker 1I've never had a game of telephone, actually the telephone that was Wild. Danny's corner says feel better soon. Omar's mom, we got from dodeca. Wonderful and hilarious dream. Rick says thank you for hanging out with us.
Speaker 2Danny asked can Marla adopt all of us? actually, that's my next question.
Speaker 1Yes, yes, that's the yeah, that's the question. What do you think, mom?
Speaker 3Yeah, i'm thinking that because I'm 65, i need a new job once I retire.
Speaker 2I.
Speaker 3Adopting grown-up children is perfect. I would totally do it.
Speaker 2All right, all right.
Speaker 3They can call me if they ever need any motherly auntie Lee advice I'm I'll be totally.
Speaker 2Happy also the always delightful enthusiasm Amy Dallin Said if we're submitting more questions, I would not object to it. More info on the Rod Stewart story.
Meeting Rod Stewart and Lilith Fair
Speaker 1Yeah, let's do yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. Let's do that, let's do that. Yeah, what, what? yeah, what. When did you meet Rod Stewart? I?
Speaker 3Met Rod Stewart at a hot rod concert. Do you need to know more? I met him again. I met him again mountain view at the Shoreline Theatre and I yelled out that I met you at that place and He actually invited me back to meet him. But it was. I was little too white for it. Yes, i went to, i went. I used to go to the Shoreline right for the Lilith Fair and all of that Yeah, yeah. Yeah, tell me you don't know that I used to go no again.
Speaker 1This is real Bay Area specific stuff.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, so you met Rod Stewart twice.
Speaker 3Yes, and Rod Stewart like, who used to come to all our girls parties many times a.
Speaker 1Rod Stewart look alike.
Speaker 3No, the real one twice.
Speaker 1Okay, yes, okay, okay.
Speaker 2How many times did you meet the look alike?
Speaker 3How many girlfriends did I have that got married and had hand parties? Let me think.
Speaker 1Can you imagine really quick? just I just want to just stop and entertain the idea, like, imagine, like being Like. I'm trying to think about the equivalent now would be of like your, a look alike, that goes to like bachelet parties, but just being like. I look so similar to Rod Stewart and someone's like. You're never gonna believe this is a huge business opportunity, i know exactly the job.
Speaker 3I Wanted to go to the Pesh mode. Do you know what they charge for their tickets now? No, I don't oh my god, it's expensive. I was like, oh, i need to take another job. I think yeah, but they're me asking.
Speaker 1Amy was asking wait Sorry, lilith Fair. What year do you remember what year you went to Lilith Fair?
Speaker 3Yes, I could tell you I was. I used to work at parents helping parents. I want to see what's No, no, no, no who performed? It was at the other. Yes, it was a shoreline theater.
Speaker 1No, no, no, but you remember who performed. Do you remember who the musicians were?
Speaker 3Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 2Wait, do you? can we know?
Speaker 3Is the organizer of it. I mean she has the ownership of it, right?
Speaker 1and you saw, yeah.
Speaker 3Yes, i saw. Yeah, ice cream. You've got to listen to ice cream and if you don't know it, google it and listen to it all night.
Speaker 1I Think this song is called. I think the song is called chocolate. Let me.
Speaker 3That was our code as ice cream. Okay, never mind, then you know it.
Speaker 1No, it is I. You're correct, you're correct, i'm wrong, I'm wrong You're correct. It's called Uh better than it's called ice cream, but according to Google it's just called ice, and I don't, i don't believe that's true.
Speaker 3It's on fumbling towards ecstasy right. Yeah, we yell at. When we yell at her, we say ice cream, so that's what we need to. And then there was, there was this comedian chick whatever her name was, i forget now. Yeah, there were there were a lot of ones, but she was the main one that we went to see. And yeah, okay.
Speaker 1So let me see if we can actually backdate this. Let's just see if we can do this. I'm just gonna search Sarah McLaughlin.
Speaker 3I do believe I have a shirt I made of ash.
Speaker 1A shirt of ash.
Speaker 3Yeah, her partner.
Speaker 1Oh, oh, okay, Okay, that okay, got it, got it Um. Did you go in 1997?
Speaker 3No, What is? there is none after that. I don't. I'm trying to find the Lineup in the crowd there that that was at the Lilith Fair.
Speaker 1I I can ask hey anyone on Twitch Were you at Lilith Fair between 1997 and 1999? Give us an F and chat If you were there. Epson chat if you were at Lilith Fair between 97 and 99. Mountain view specifically at the shoreline.
Speaker 3That was the venue open air, yeah.
Speaker 1July 8th. I Want, I think that's it.
Speaker 2I think that's late Mountain View, charlotte at the theater.
Speaker 1I ate, did you say. Was it right around your birthday? Paula Cole was there. Tracy Chapman was there.
Speaker 3Yes, Tracy Chapman there.
Speaker 1Was there. Oh Lordy was, was that? it does that sound? did you see, julian concert?
Speaker 3I Must have been. Don't ask me to remember too much.
Speaker 1Okay, do you remember Tracy Chapman? You remember Tracy Chapman Of?
Speaker 3course I remember Tracy Chapman.
Speaker 1No, but did you see Tracy Chapman a concert? I don't mean do you recall, Yeah, but do you? did you? Did you see and or meet Tracy Chapman at a concert?
Speaker 3I did not meet her. I might have yeah, she might have been at the concert.
Speaker 1We might have cracked it, perfect, but let me see if there's anything else in chat before we let you go.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah, Danny was asking What you thought about the D&D movie.
Speaker 1Have you seen it yet? Have you seen the D&D movie with Chris Pine, michelle Rodriguez? I?
Speaker 3saw him at. Yeah, i wait now I've not seen the movies. The one word answer because you guys are running out of time. And But I saw Chris Pine at, jimmy, remember, i saw him and I messaged you Because you're hanging out with Lou. He was hanging out with Lou, Yeah he's hanging out with Lou. Wilson sword. Yeah, one of these days we're gonna go walk down that path and go say hi to him.
Speaker 1You want to do? you want to go see Jimmy Kimmel when you're in LA next time.
Speaker 3Oh, Yeah, baby.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, it'll be fun. It'll be fun.
Speaker 1Do you have anything you want to say to Lou? I can pass that on personally.
Speaker 3Yeah, tell him that I love his introductions.
Speaker 1Great, i'll give him that very formal compliment.
Speaker 3I Don't want to upset him before he meets me.
Speaker 1That's your blanket really safe? You don't want to say anything controversial to Lou Wilson? Great, so was it you really? you really like his introductions? I mean, it's cheerful. Yeah, of course, yeah great. Great. He's a very cheerful guy. He's got great energy, perfect. Well, great, we'll let you go so you can host the folks who you said were fake names, but just everyone knows those are definitely real names. That's our family friends that are visiting. But, mom, thank you very much for joining us.
Speaker 3Yeah, please notice, i did not verify that. I did not. I did not verify. If you're spreading a rumor, it's on you.
Speaker 1We'll close this out because apparently my mom and Delvin have to have a private conversation. All right you want to give us a solid.
Speaker 2Bye to chat.
Speaker 1All right, bye everybody. Thank you so much for joining us, thank you for watching, thank you for wonderful comments and chat. Thank you for supporting the show And for being here for a very special episode for me, because I got this is my mom's first time on twitch. This is the first time I think I've done like an internet thing with my mom in general at all. Um, so thank you very much. This has been very special for me and very wonderful, and it's so great to see all of our friends In chat. It's so wonderful to get that support.
Shout Outs and Gratitude
Speaker 1Uh, i want to say head over to Q times to check out an incredible show. Um, that is Two of the best detectives, it's just the most. It's the greatest detective show you could possibly get just injected into your veins. Uh, it's exactly my type of pulp Run by the wonderful rick bud to check that out. Um, and I also want to give a shout out to salt and serpents Over on pixel circus is a whole ecosystem that we have here on twitch So many good shows where you don't have to choose content, you just get to absorb it all and get it. So I just want to give shout outs to those two shows. And mom, is there anything you want to shout out? any artists that people should check out?
Speaker 3I want to say thank you for inviting me and brightening my evening. It was so much fun.
Speaker 2The pleasure was all out.
Speaker 3So sooner. If I had realized, i would have brought you both.
Speaker 1Wonderful, all right. Well, we'll let you go, mom. I will let you go chat everybody. Have a wonderful week and we'll see you next time. Bye, thank you, mylings.
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